A Blank Check: Obamacare 2.0
This is called showing us who’s boss and is frightening to anyone who cares a lick about the existence of civil liberties in this country. This bill is essentially a wish list of how Dear Leader wants gain control over your life.
Will it happen? Hard to say, but I’d bet a dollar to a dime if they can pull it off, they’re going to force it down your throat, whether you like it or not.
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joelion 7:10 pm on February 23, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
OMG My civil liberties, where did they go!!?
The Bruce 8:18 am on February 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Goethe
joelion 8:51 am on February 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
so I can only assume you were up in arms over the past decade when ACTUAL civil liberties were being ignored, right? Things like the rights to privacy, a fair trial, no forced self-incrimination, and habeas corpus?
The Bruce 10:50 am on February 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I can only assume you are referring to the Bush and now *gasp!* Obama administrations’ handling of terrorists, who are considered enemy combatants, who are not guaranteed any rights under the US Constitution.
I’d appreciate it if you could explain to me how the government inserting itself into my health care decisions is not a violation of my civil liberties.
joelion 12:07 pm on February 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I didn’t like Bush’s handling of enemy combatants, and unfortunately Obama has continued with many of his worst policies. Any honest liberal would not and should not deny that.
Also, impending on our privacy rights and lack of habeas corpus has been applied to American citizens under the Patriot Act, not just foreigners. Not that it matters, though – you’re wrong about enemy combatants not being guaranteed rights under the US Constitution. The (conservative, Roberts-led) 2008 Supreme Court case BOUMEDIENE v. BUSH determined that even foreign nationals, terrorists, enemy combatants or whatever, are afforded US Constitutional rights when in American custody. Like it or not, that’s now the law of the land
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/06-1195.ZO.html
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/02/01/collins/
re: the gov’t “inserting itself” into your health care decisions….. come on, you’re going to have to be more specific than that. Which parts, exactly, of Obama’s/the Democratic proposal are violating your civil liberties.
Mein Schatz 12:55 pm on February 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
The government is inserting itself in my health care decisions by taking away the money that I could possibly save for my own health care and giving it to others. But in a more specific way, the government is trying to interfere with my health care by taking over the present role of the insurance companies.
Currently, insurance companies make many health care decisions that they should not, more or less superseding a doctor’s better judgment for their own by denying payment for all but a handful of drugs or treatments for any condition. It is presently that case that insurance companies will only pay for specific treatments for specific ailments. Prescriptions for drugs that are not on the insurance company’s list of acceptable treatments for a condition are denied for reimbursement. I cannot agree with this backwards method of medical decision-making, but the current health care proposal, from what I can see, looks to insert itself between insurance and the patient or even to become an insurance company itself and play the same role.
Presently, it is my right not to have insurance, to pay no premiums and accept the risk that I will need to pay thousands or millions of dollars for my treatment, if I should get sick. If the government has its way, I will no longer have this right, ala Massachusetts, and I will be required to pay for something I may never use in order to benefit others that may abuse and neglect their own health at my expense. That is how the government is inserting itself in my health care decisions.
The Bruce 1:11 pm on February 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply
And it is currently Mein Schatz’s right that should he disagree with how an insurance company handles coverage of certain care or certain drugs, to take his money and give it to another company (or none at all).
On the subject of enemy combatants, well met joelion, I’m impressed.